Quick reality check: since August 2024, Form 8717‑A is used only to make an additional payment when the original user fee for a pre‑approved plan opinion letter application was short. Initial opinion letter applications and their fees are filed through Pay.gov.
Key takeaways
- Form 8717‑A is now a top‑up tool. You use it only to send an additional user fee for a pre‑approved plan opinion letter application under the Form 4461 series after the initial Pay.gov payment.
- Initial applications for pre‑approved plans, including Forms 4461, 4461‑A, 4461‑B, and 4461‑C, must be submitted electronically on Pay.gov, with the user fee paid during that online submission.
- If you owe more after filing, you mail Form 8717‑A with a check or money order payable to “United States Treasury” to the Cincinnati addresses printed on the form.
- The small‑employer user fee exemption applies to determination letters, not to opinion letter user fees. Do not expect an exemption to cover a Form 8717‑A top‑up.
- Determination letter user fees and additional payments run through Pay.gov on the Form 8717 pathway, which has its own Pay.gov page and contact details.
What Form 8717‑A covers in 2025
Form 8717‑A is titled “User Fee for Employee Plan Opinion Letter Request,” and the August 2024 revision reshaped its role. The IRS notes that Form 8717‑A “is now used only to make an additional payment when an insufficient user fee was paid” for an opinion letter application submitted on a Form 4461 series filing. Initial user fee payments are made as part of the Pay.gov application. In short, think “make‑up payment,” not “primary payment.”
Two important shifts sit behind this change:
- The Form 4461 series went electronic. As of mid‑2024, the IRS requires that pre‑approved plan opinion letter applications be filed through Pay.gov, with the user fee collected during the online process. Paper applications are no longer processed.
- The modern pre‑approved program relies on opinion letters only. The IRS combined the old master and prototype and volume submitter tracks into a single opinion letter program, simplifying document types while keeping user fees in place for providers and mass submitters.
When to reach for Form 8717‑A vs Pay.gov vs Form 8717
If you filed a Form 4461‑series application on Pay.gov and later learn that your user fee was short, you fix it with Form 8717‑A and a paper check or money order. You do not submit a second Pay.gov payment for that same application. The 8717‑A instructions explicitly tell you to attach payment to the form and mail it to Cincinnati.
By contrast, determination letter user fees, including additional payments after July 1, 2023, are handled through the Pay.gov “IRS Employee Plans Determination User Fee” form, which replaced most paper check scenarios and even lists the IRS contact for questions.
A quick story to make it stick
You file Form 4461 for a nonstandardized pre‑approved defined contribution plan on Pay.gov and pay the user fee. A few weeks later, the IRS flags a shortfall based on the fee schedule in the current revenue procedure. The right move is simple. Complete Form 8717‑A, check the correct fee line, write the additional amount, attach a check to “United States Treasury,” and mail it to the Pre‑Approved Plans Coordinator in Cincinnati. Keep copies and your mailing proof with the Pay.gov confirmation.
Why the old “advisory letter” references can trip you up
Many of us still remember advisory letters from the volume submitter days. The IRS retired that distinction. Today, providers and mass submitters request opinion letters only, under procedures updated in Rev. Proc. 2017‑41 and later consolidated in Rev. Proc. 2023‑37. If you see legacy language suggesting you submit Form 8717‑A with every application, check the publication date. The current rule is Pay.gov first, Form 8717‑A only for additional payments after a short fee.
The big picture, then the details
Who actually uses Form 8717‑A
- Pre‑approved plan providers and mass submitters who filed a Form 4461‑series application on Pay.gov and later owe an additional user fee.
- You will not use Form 8717‑A for initial payments. Those are collected during the Pay.gov application for Forms 4461, 4461‑A, 4461‑B, and 4461‑C.
Where to send it
Mail Form 8717‑A with your check or money order to the addresses printed on the August 2024 form:
- USPS: IRS, Attn: Pre‑Approved Plans Coordinator, P.O. Box 2508, Room 6‑403, Group 7521, Cincinnati, OH 45201‑2508
- Express or PDS: IRS, Attn: Pre‑Approved Plans Coordinator, 550 Main Street, Room 6‑403, Group 7521, Cincinnati, OH 45202
Fee source of truth
To pick the right line and amount on 8717‑A, follow the user fee schedule in Rev. Proc. 2024‑4, or the latest annual update. The 8717‑A instructions point you to that schedule. If the schedule updates for 2026, use the newest table.
Form 8717‑A vs Form 8717 vs Pay.gov, side by side
| Purpose | You should use | How the money moves |
| Initial opinion letter application for a pre‑approved plan | Pay.gov Form 4461 series | Submit application and pay the user fee online at Pay.gov |
| Additional payment for that same opinion letter application | Form 8717‑A | Mail check or money order with Form 8717‑A to Cincinnati |
| Determination letter user fees and additional payments | Pay.gov Form 8717 (EP Determination User Fee) | Pay.gov collects the fee and provides a confirmation page with contact details if needed |
Sources: IRS instructions for the 4461 series and Pay.gov pages for 4461 and 8717 user fees.
Step by step, how to complete Form 8717‑A
- Pull your Pay.gov confirmation Have your Pay.gov tracking ID and the original Form 4461‑series details. You will need the provider name, EIN, plan number, and plan name to match the additional payment to the correct file.
- Complete the top section Enter the plan provider’s legal name, EIN, plan number, and plan name exactly as they appear on your Pay.gov filing. Consistency reduces follow‑ups and delays.
- Pick the correct fee line Line 5 lists pre‑approved plan fee categories. Check the right box, then write the additional amount you owe based on the current revenue procedure’s user fee schedule.
- Prepare payment Attach a check or money order payable to “United States Treasury” for the additional fee only. Do not attempt to pay this top‑up through Pay.gov.
- Mail to the correct address Use the USPS P.O. Box or the Express/PDS street address, as printed on the August 2024 form. Save tracking and delivery proof.
- Keep your records in one place File your Pay.gov confirmation, a copy of the completed Form 8717‑A, the check stub, and proof of delivery together. If an Employee Plans Specialist requests evidence, you can respond in minutes, not days. For DL additional payments, the Pay.gov Form 8717 confirmation page is what you send to your assigned EP Specialist.
Context you should know in 2025
- Pay.gov submission is mandatory for the Form 4461 series. The IRS will not process paper initial applications.
- Opinion letters replaced advisory letters in the pre‑approved program. That change has been in effect since the 2017 overhaul and remains the standard today.
If you see an old FAQ or article telling you to attach Form 8717‑A to every opinion or advisory letter request, check the date. The August 2024 form revision and the 2024 instructions moved initial payments to Pay.gov and kept 8717‑A only for additional payments.
Fees, exemptions, and what does not apply to 8717‑A
How fees are determined
The correct user fee depends on your pre‑approved plan category, for example mass submitter basic plan document, additional adoption agreements, single document plans, identical adopters, or minor modifiers. Use the current user fee schedule in the annual revenue procedure, which the 8717‑A instructions reference by citation. When in doubt, confirm the amount before you mail your check.
Do small‑employer exemptions help here?
Short answer, no. The small‑employer user fee exemption in IRC 7528 can apply to certain determination letter applications, and the IRS explains how the ten‑year testing rule works for that exemption. Opinion letters for pre‑approved plans still require user fees, and Form 8717‑A has no exemption certification to fill out. Treat your 8717‑A as a pure additional payment.
Addresses and payment method recap
- Attach a check or money order payable to “United States Treasury.”
- Mail the package to the Cincinnati addresses printed on the August 2024 form.
- Include any cover sheet or reference so the payment ties cleanly to your Pay.gov application.
Common pitfalls we see, and simple ways to avoid them
- Sending a second Pay.gov payment for a 4461‑series shortfall. The correct fix is Form 8717‑A with a check or money order.
- Using an outdated address. Use the addresses on the current 8717‑A PDF. Print the form fresh for each mailing.
- Guessing at the fee category. Match your plan type to the right line on Form 8717‑A and tie the amount back to the latest annual fee schedule.
- Mixing determination and opinion letter rules. Determination letter user fees and additional amounts run through the Pay.gov “IRS Employee Plans Determination User Fee” flow, not through 8717‑A.
Quick checklist you can copy
- Verify you actually need an additional payment, not a new application
- Pull Pay.gov tracking ID and your 4461‑series submission details
- Download the current 8717‑A PDF and confirm the fee line and amount against the current revenue procedure
- Write a check or money order to “United States Treasury” for the difference
- Complete 8717‑A, attach payment, and mail to the correct Cincinnati address
- File copies of everything with your Pay.gov confirmation and delivery proof
What about determination letters and Form 8717 in 2025
If you are working on a determination letter, Pay.gov now handles both the application and the initial user fee. Beginning July 1, 2023, the IRS instructs you to use the Pay.gov 8717 flow only to make additional payments and to send that confirmation to your assigned EP Specialist. The Pay.gov page lists contact information, including the specialist phone line, if you run into issues.
A note on E‑E‑A‑T and your records
In our experience, the cleanest files share three traits. First, exact matches between Pay.gov details and your 8717‑A. Second, a short cover note that cites the specific line you are true‑ing up and the amount. Third, delivery proof clipped to the front of the internal file. If an IRS Employee Plans Specialist asks for evidence, you have everything ready in one place. For 4461 submissions, the IRS instructions also outline how to handle large attachments and fax overflow, which is useful if your consolidated PDF exceeds Pay.gov limits.
FAQs
Is Form 8717‑A still required with every opinion letter application?
No. Initial user fees for opinion letter applications are paid during the Pay.gov filing for the Form 4461 series. Form 8717‑A is now used only to send an additional payment when the original fee paid was insufficient.
Can I pay the 8717‑A top‑up on Pay.gov?
No. The August 2024 instructions direct you to attach a check or money order to Form 8717‑A and mail it to the Cincinnati address. Pay.gov is for the initial 4461‑series application and fee.
Where do I find the correct user fee amount?
Use the current annual user fee schedule in the revenue procedure cited in the 8717‑A instructions. For 2024, that was Rev. Proc. 2024‑4. Check for the newest version before you mail payment.
Do small‑employer user fee exemptions cover opinion letters?
No. The small‑employer exemption is a determination letter concept and does not waive opinion letter user fees. Form 8717‑A does not include an exemption certification.
What if I am working on a determination letter instead?
Determination letter applications and fees are filed in Pay.gov. If you need to make an additional payment, use the Pay.gov “IRS Employee Plans Determination User Fee” pathway, then send the confirmation to your assigned EP Specialist.
Practical example, start to finish
- You filed Form 4461‑A on September 18, 2025, through Pay.gov, uploaded your consolidated PDF, and paid the fee online. A week later, your EP Specialist emails that the correct fee for your category is higher.
- You complete Form 8717‑A, check the matching category on line 5, write the additional amount, attach a check to “United States Treasury,” and mail it to the Pre‑Approved Plans Coordinator at 550 Main Street, Room 6‑403, Group 7521, Cincinnati, OH 45202 by overnight delivery.
- You clip the Pay.gov confirmation, a copy of 8717‑A, the check stub, and delivery proof together in your file. If the Specialist asks for proof, you can send it immediately.
Helpful links you will actually use
- IRS instructions for Form 4461 and 4461‑A, including Pay.gov specifics, file size tips, and timing notes.
- Pay.gov portal pages for Form 4461 and the EP Determination User Fee.
- IRS overview of pre‑approved plan submission procedures.
- The current Form 8717‑A PDF, which lists the “What’s New,” fee categories, and the Cincinnati mailing addresses.
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